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From: Ehud Barak [1]
Sent: 8/9/2015 10:54:41 PM
To: jeffrey E. [jeeyacation@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re:
Importance: High
Hi Jeff
66th I meant.
Thx again. It was really great.
Best
EB
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On Aug 10, 2015, at 01:51, Ehud Barak <_____________________> wrote:
Hi Jeff
I really find it amusing. I don't agree with everything he says. But it is fascinating. BB is making "historic
mistakes"(as he likes to blame others) both vis-a-vis Obama as well as in regard to the American Jewry. And
causes a direct damage to IL.
Noam is so sharp and focused. Really impressive.
I did not fully understand how the fallacy he sees in the attitude to the Ants example is related to Big Data
illusions. An area (deep learning) I spent some time recently trying to better penetrate.
Btw, the series of cubic differences should look 7,19,37,61 (not 21).
We greatly enjoyed staying in 62nd.
We plan to be back in the last week of Aug. for several weeks (having some speeches to make)
will you still be in NM?
If positive we might come over for few days.
PI let us know.
Best
From Nil as well.
Regards
EB
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On Aug 8, 2015, at 22:05, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
thought you might find amusing
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From: Noam Chomsky <_________________
Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: Re:
To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Neat indeed.
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I'm writing about the Iran deal. So far have only sent a form paragraph in response to requests. Below.
Noam
On Iran, as usual, I'm a gloomy contrarian. I'm glad the treaty was signed, and it's kind of fun to watch the
Republican lunatics shrieking hysterically as they try to kill it (as they may). And Israeli hypocrisy has gone
well beyond being comical. But in fact the whole thing is farcical, in my opinon. In the US, Iran is "the
greatest threat to world peace", intoned constantly from on high, in the media, everywhere. There is also such a
thing as world opinion, as measured by such ultra-radicals as Gallup. It turns out that the greatest threat to
world peace is the US, by a very wide margin, no one else even close, and Iran barely mentioned. The
American population is protected from these unwanted facts by the Free Press: not reported. There is an
organization called US intelligence. They brief Congress regularly on the international security situation, all
quite public. On Iran, they point out that it has very limited military power, even by regional standards (a small
fraction of Saudi Arabia, for example). Its strategic doctrine is defensive. If— a big If— it has plans for nuclear
weapons, that would be part of its deterrent strategy. Now who would be opposed to Iran having a deterrent
strategy? Answer is clear: the rogue states that rampage violently in the region and don't want any impediment:
the US and Israel, also lesser ones like UK and France. One simple way to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons
would be to establish a nuclear-weapons free zone in the region, as has been done elsewhere (over US
objections). That's been advocated by the Arab states for 20 years, with very wide global support, including
Iran. It comes up regularly at the 5-year review meetings of the Nonproliferation Treaty, at the UN, again a few
months ago, when, again, it was blocked by the US to protect its Israeli client, which has a huge nuclear
weapons arsenal and wants to keep it. Again, the population is protected from such facts by the Free Press
(though in this case there are some fringe exceptions, and of course the Arms Control literature). Same with the
rest of the litany. Reading the US and UK press is like living in some lunatic asylum. I'm wondering whether
to write about it — again; have done so repeatedly. It's like talking to a wall. Iran has an awful government,
though by the standards of such US allies as Saudi Arabia, it's practically heaven.
Nevertheless, better to have the treaty than not to, given the nature of the asylum.
Noam
From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 3:36 PM
To: Noam Chomsky <
Subject: Re: Re:
the mathematical model. is quite beautiful, though the basic rules are simple , once they have run over and
over again, and produced a result you cannot tease them out by any form of reductionism. or
algorithm, just like the series 7- 21 -37... cannot be found by alogrithm, it is simply the difference of
cubes, . Have you written about the iran deal?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Noam Chomsky < > wrote:
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What you suggest is very much the model that has been current in the behavioral sciences for many years. It has a
record of colossal failure, and for good reasons, I think. It's disproven, but keeps coming back, most recently with Big
Data illusions.
A child doesn't grow arms and legs rather than wings, or a mammalian vs insect visual system, the way an ant searches
for food. Rather, the path of development is sharply restricted (and evolution follows constraints too). Acquisition of
language (and other cognitive achievements) seems very much like physical growth.
Highly contentious in the field, but in my opinion that's a comment on the failures of the field.
From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 12:44 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re: Re:
ants and evolution work by trying things and finding the best solution. math and physics works by
algorithms. Im suggesting that maybe just as a child sends out many connections and then discards the unused
might be a better template for biological thinking.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Noam Chomsky <IMMEME wrote:
There were plenty of warnings about one currency. Not heeded, unfortunately.
Appreciate the invitation, but leisure time? Is that an English phrase?
OK for ants, but don't see how it helps us.
Noam
From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 10:28 AM
To: Noam Chomsky <.>
Subject: Re:
bad for them , good for you. no need to have only one currency, its old fashioned. . you are of course
welcome to use apt in new york with your new leisure time, or visit new Mexico again.
ants find the shortest route to food, by trying many and discarding what doesn't work, no algorithm. , no input
or output, only a goal. . sounds closer to our probem
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Noam Chomsky <
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Bad news. We decided not to go. I was invited to talk at the Parliament, but what can one say? That aside, they've
got plenty of people giving them bad advice.
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From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 7:48 PM
To: Noam Chomsky <
Subject:
Only go to Greece if you feel well , I just had to send my plane to bring another lefty friend back from
Athens to see a Jew doctor in New York.
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