File 027232

iMessage Chat About Bill Gates, Trump Administration, and MIT Media Lab Connections (File 027232)

April 2017 iMessage conversation discussing Bill Gates' charitable foundation strategy, critiques of Trump administration policies, and discussions about connecting associates with MIT Media Lab and DARPA contacts.
Summary
This is an iMessage conversation from April 20, 2017 between individuals including Joi Ito and another party. The chat covers multiple topics: sharing a Forbes article about Bill Gates' foreign aid approach, discussing business opportunities around plant-to-human translational research, references to a 'secret society' involving Joi Ito, Ed Boyden, and others at MIT Media Lab. The conversation includes commentary on Bill Gates' relationship with the Trump administration, skepticism about Trump's ability to implement budget cuts and tax changes, and discussion of Gates' charitable foundation strategy across multiple global health initiatives. There are also personal anecdotes about DARPA interview experiences and concerns about how Gates' foundation leadership resists new perspectives.
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Source Entry: H\Macintosh 17-04-20\LI
2017-04-20 at 09.16.46.ichat
Service: iMessage
Start Time: 04/20/17 06:16:46 AM (514387006)
End Time: 04/20/17 05:56:20 PM (514428980)
Last Message ID: 4189
Chat Room:
Participants: jee, EI 8 E
Presentity IDs: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com, 12063827848
Messages -
E on
Sender:
Time: 0:1111.16 AM (514387006)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: CB9D38CE-CB44-4D2E-AA3B-2DA89F49D2D4
Message:
https://www.forbes.comisites/timworstall/2017/04/20/where-bill-gates-goes-wrong-its-how-not-how-much-foreign-aid-is-
spent-that-matters/#66008a866de0
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:29:02 AM (514387742)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 8D743905-A8CE-41DB-AFDE-89CF87426DDD
Message: Bill Helman has some ideas on how to create a business around this and to monetize the concepts / plant
to human translational research and don't worry he's incredibly discrete. And discreet. Also Geoff Ling the former head of
DARPA and total genius is also my good friend and very supportive - didn't give a ton of detail but he says he will do
whatever or even help run, advise, etc. he knows how to make science fiction science fact.
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:34:33 AM (514388073)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: A21DBO8B-ECO2-4909-9766-DA362ED3F1C8
Message: both are welcome to our secret society , they will join join joi ito ed boyden and caleb . ( mit agro )
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:36:44 AM (514388204)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 116E74DC-E0D2-4AAO-A655-07EDACFE373F
Message: Perfect
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:36:49 AM (514388209)
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Flags: 1060865
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GUID: EAF0684C-29EC-498D-B622-7B0E94ED8431
Message: Geoff is CRAZY
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:37:14 AM (514388234)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 0A4B4586-6D20-4473-AA0A-9D41D696B61F
Message: i like crazy
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:37:42 AM (514388262)
Flags: 1126401
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GUID: 1F8D4599-401B-47E6-AFE1-492A23A449C3
Message: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey Ling
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:38:00 AM (514388280)
Flags: 1085445
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GUID: 7989F7DO-F595-424B-978B-9C68341DFAFB
Message: go to visit MIT asap. maybe i get you an appt at the media lab
Sender: +
Time: 04/20/17 06:38:08 AM (514388288)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: C5AF5E01-141E-4AC1-8384-4CA2658C6D21
Message: And hes a very very good friend of mine. He tried to make me work at darpa.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:38:41 AM (514388321)
Flags: 1126401
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GUID: 7BBC69FC-820C-4A23-93D6-BE535D5CC247
Message: Oh that would be great! I have to be in seattle w bg from tmr to April 29 but can go week of May 1
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:39:33 AM (514388373)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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Is Invitation: No
GUID: 357516EB-7EFF-4ADC-89B7-31D56B024D27
Message: So when I went to interview at darpa the woman who was the head (arathi something can't remember
last name) told geoff she couldn't hire someone so gorgeous because it would distract the men trying to focus on work
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:40:41 AM (514388441)
Flags: 1085445
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GUID: 24EF9890-72F6-4F35-9C61-F95E795359DB
Message: i sent bill a note after talking to wash, he is causing them to rethink the charitable deduction for
overseas programs. donald is NOT pragmatic. that takes thinking ability, . he is setting himself up as part of
yesterdays establishment and their perceived mistakes.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:40:44 AM (514388444)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: A8D8AA62-B836-4445-9ABB-ADEEB4587F98
Message: And it would shift the focus of their thinking from science to sex. She also told that to Dan wattendorf
(almost same Exact words ). Was a gross feeling to be spoken of like that by another woman.
Sender: +
Time: 04/20/17 06:41:08 AM (514388468)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 1972F54F-0D9A-44D4-9A15-87A56E0CF7CF
Message: Bill won't believe you
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:41:45 AM (514388505)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: BEF95A7A-3C2D-47FA-9A99-14B53FE28EE2
Message: He has mark Suzman geoff lamb and the full "development" advisory leadership that are SO OLD
GUARD
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:42:01 AM (514388521)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: B6DD8ABD-2638-43FF-BCA5-9C66E9E35A31
Message: and they are gargoyles refusing to let other opinions in
Sender:
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Time: 04/20/17 06:42:13 AM (514388533)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 3DED2346-C24F-43C6-99D7-CDFC4EB67273
Message: And when bg goes to see Jared and ivanka they tell Him he is a genius
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:42:24 AM (514388544)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: C5745CA5-DD27-4D09-993C-2D9F78C483D3
Message: And trump tells him he is a genius to his face
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:42:47 AM (514388567)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 37D62D3A-C114-4EDE-8062-BD3DEFC1B014
Message: its ok, he will believe it when it happens , and then hear I told you so. trump tells everyone the exact
same thing. exact
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:43:21 AM (514388601)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 18D4CA8C-0008-4EA4-AA2A-519BB9B341BF
Message: Bill says 1. Trump will never get the budget cuts through. He claims he's spoken to senators and that
they will fight and that the White House can't unilaterally do a budget like that. 2. He says trump can't unilaterally change
the tax code.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:43:55 AM (514388635)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 65D57D4D-AD6F-4F69-8B23-FB74AED19B8B
Message: 3. He says trump will be in power 3.5 more years or less and that his foundation has a 30 year life
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:44:01 AM (514388641)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 3B40D94D-BC95-4F39-Al 4E-00A8296512CF
Message: watch obamare. see what tools he uses
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Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:44:09 AM (514388649)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: C3BABB78-AD1B-4B8A-94DF-31BE896E32F2
Message: I agree w you
Sender: -__________________
Time: 04/20/17 06:44:26 AM (514388666)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: CE566A33-3A26-42B2-8416-46616D65B09F
Message: You and I have both advised bg to Pick a topic and make a deal
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:44:41 AM (514388681)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: DC2185BB-1000-4DDF-A1D6-22FFC17D1141
Message: If he wants pepfar then make a deal there Something quiet pro quo
Sender: +
Time: 04/20/17 06:45:11 AM (514388711)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
Is Invitation: No
GUID: 5483227B-4E5C-4026-BF6E-6C2DBA428692
Message: Instead he's an issue per week Neglected tropical diseases Polio Pepfar Women's health 0.7% Etc
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:45:39 AM (514388739)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 2589C939-189F-44CD-B5A7-FD64142CAC77
Message: I'm afraid we both know how this will end - and trump won't lose
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:47:00 AM (514388820)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 199BAD29-4FD0-4336-9D9E-56D95C2F9788
Message: Different topic .... did you see the shared drive I sent you w all the papers
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 06:47:27 AM (514388847)
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Flags: 1085445
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GUID: FB94A2FB-DBDA-487D-AEEF-2AE26325FD58
Message: didn't yet. will later
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:47:30 AM (514388850)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: A6D7E143-DA22-4A3E-9647-8CD9D19DD5FC
Message: K
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 06:48:08 AM (514388888)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 8BEF9D14-AD9B-487E-8DAE-86CE9D047E4C
Message: Plants use more than a dozen innate skills to manage stress. None that human scientists have tried.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 07:04:58 AM (514389898)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 3E5FC6F9-3461-4EED-AD07-04F0798F8CE7
Message: http://medcraveonline.com/MOJCSR/MOJCSR-02-00031.pdf
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 07:04:59 AM (514389899)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 4A19E596-B8DB-4987-BF07-B59F8DAFDB3D
Message: Very crazy ppl here. Melanin/energy
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 09:05:29 AM (514397129)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: D39CE762-16EE-4A7A-A75F-70C83794FFOB
Message: Can I visit Ed week of May 1?
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 09:05:36 AM (514397136)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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Is Invitation: No
GUID: 6EFBD6CD-OF8C-4DAA-AD80-351A71C9FA9E
Message: MIT
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:13:02 AM (514404782)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: DF81763A-0173-4C69-9CC6-C6031C8EBA48
Message: I can do Concurrent with the very fake bgc3 thing. It's so ridiculous how trapped bg is ... I think I'm just
there bc he cares about my next steps and wanted to help me.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:13:18 AM (514404798)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
Is Invitation: No
GUID: 9175C509-61A1-4651-9D1C-53DDF4B65060
Message: If ed is game I'm Game
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:15:12 AM (514404912)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
Is Invitation: No
GUID: F73BCE9E-4127-46A8-A747-310A5B178FD1
Message: What is Geoff ling doing now
Sender:MOM=
Time: 04/20/17 11:15:37 AM (514404937)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
Is Invitation: No
GUID: D20E7043-68EE-44F9-B061-0A6E6B90AB6C
Message: Consulting
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:15:55 AM (514404955)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 1090EE78-FDC8-4D81-93D5-6F04A7BA5390
Message: Where
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:15:58 AM (514404958)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 44ACEBD9-5E5B-4976-985C-FDD1B0258CA6
Message: Looking for his next gig - they had him on the roster for NIH so he's hanging out till then
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:16:12 AM (514404972)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
Is Invitation: No
GUID: 99AE9BEB-5F25-4B68-BFB6-038898847513
Message: Baltimore He also attends at Hopkins
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:16:15 AM (514404975)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 359352F1-E82C-4F84-BF4A-36207DEF2670
Message: Can I Skype him
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:16:19 AM (514404979)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 0E35ACD8-A83B-4CEF-9ABF-28B75831F252
Message: Sure
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:16:31 AM (514404991)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 2D3D207D-B197-4B58-BF8C-1AA6F6DC978F
Message: What do you want to talk to him about I can ask him
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:16:49 AM (514405009)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 6FBBB7CD-1F18-45D1-A78D-9A400E7094C5
Message: Was thinking more fun to talk in person he'd go to NYC He's a character
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:17:22 AM (514405042)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: CABECD72-5F69-441D-95B4-BAA8E2DFA729
Message: Ok
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Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:17:37 AM (514405057)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 643B7A65-3B92-45EA-8148-DBEB772E29B7
Message: Can we do a dinner maybe week of May 1 or the week after w Ed boyden and geoff and whoever else is
in the inner confidential circle
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:17:43 AM (514405063)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 66D7F74F-68E9-4152-91B6-BB31CFAAAC48
Message: I suggest Neal Kassell too
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:18:07 AM (514405087)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: Fl5CA15F-CDE9-4FF5-8C19-8E7C1F61F38E
Message: Ok
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:18:08 AM (514405088)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: BF4B3C71-8CF9-45DB-B1A2-DA3BF7DB2CBA
Message: Genius retired Worlds greatest vascular neurosurgeon with one eye haha But he is doing cool Stuff w
ultrasound
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:18:21 AM (514405101)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: BOBC11B5-0C89-461E-B03F-7579CE1CA37A
Message: And friends w geoff and me too He's On my brain council
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:18:57 AM (514405137)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 4B8DCCAB-DC9C-4E7A-B36F-EBE86243C578
Message: Neal Kassell Geoff Ling Me You Ed Boyden Then you pick 1 other?
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Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:19:35 AM (514405175)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: OB48E4D4-10C3-4576-A76F-CAC019B3DA43
Message: They are all going to Milken so it will need to be after
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:20:06 AM (514405206)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 27283829-8350-4010-9073-6BA178A4860F
Message: What about Thursday may 11
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:20:09 AM (514405209)
Flags: 1060865
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GUID: 294E297E-D256-4FC7-8A71-ADBEBAF3C53D
Message: Dinner
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:21:48 AM (514405308)
Flags: 1085445
Is Read: No
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GUID: 076438F8-7CF7-4A91-86D7-B66ED516DEFD
Message: What dates are milked. I here there first week in may. Gone the 8th
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:25:10 AM (514405510)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 07D349C7-CF49-488E-965B-9A5AACA9000D
Message: April 30-may 3
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:25:41 AM (514405541)
Flags: 1126401
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GUID: DA5D7223-AFFE-4A47-9ACD-BFCFE6B19F72
Message: Ted April 24-28
Sender: -
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Time: 04/20/17 11:26:02 AM (514405562)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 56B30E25-DCA6-44DD-A404-5884E8E93A5B
Message: Could maybe do 4 or 5 may??
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:31:30 AM (514405890)
Flags: 1060865
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GUID: 67A4BEB7-6C9B-4E24-8587-CE5B848D6FF7
Message: <Unsupported Message Content>
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:31:45 AM (514405905)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 890EBEA8-935C-4ADA-A3C2-1813413A4B15
Message: Neal
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:33:27 AM (514406007)
Flags: 1126401
Is Read: Yes
Is Invitation: No
GUID: 64AF8F1C-AADB-46B5-9395-CA625FC7245A
Message: http://www.nature.com/news/surprising-contenders-emerge-for-trump-s-nih-chief-1.21295
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:33:27 AM (514406007)
Flags: 1060865
Is Read: Yes
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GUID: 81E01262-68EE-4043-83A4-455DCDAlEC61
Message: See on geoff Ling
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:49:01 AM (514406941)
Flags: 1150981
Is Read: No
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GUID: 5BD76BCA-BF04-4651-B1F2-47CBBB656All
Message:
https://www.washingtonpost.cominews/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/04/20/naked-mole-rats-are-now-even-weirder-
without-oxygen-they-live-like-plants/?utm term=.434743f38339
Sender: e:jeeitunes@gmail.com
Time: 04/20/17 11:57:56 AM (514407476)
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Flags: 1085445
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GUID: 4390079F-7123-4AD6-9924-0EC2F8EBO9C3
Message: Cannot do 5
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 11:58:21 AM (514407501)
Flags: 1060865
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GUID: E0C7EBD9-30A5-4802-8E8A-D83BAE932EDO
Message: Can do 4?
Sender
Time: 04/20/17 05:55:34 PM (514428934)
Flags: 1052673
Is Read: No
Is Invitation: No
GUID: 91B2F041-4DEE-46B9-AB69-E611433514DB
Message: Should I try to get creative on compensation at bgc3 or just let them do whatever they want? Larry sent
me their smart lawyer in case there was a tax benefit for me for a certain package or to see if bcg3 could bundle my salary
and pay it to NYU or Harvard to train me as a fellow in endovascular (costs like 150k bc of malpractice insurance etc)
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 05:56:15 PM (514428975)
Flags: 1052673
Is Read: No
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GUID: A44DAE6D-3325-4489-8021-DB1D9DE86C4B
Message: Larry says that bill has offered to be supportive however it makes sense to me. I just worry a bit about
his wife if I do anything other than the standard.
Sender:
Time: 04/20/17 05:56:20 PM (514428980)
Flags: 1052673
Is Read: No
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GUID: C8663B03-821A-44EA-9039-A7091FD10E7A
Message: Thought?
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Topics

academic business development imessage chat trump administration
People Mentioned

Bill Gates Microsoft Co-founder
Donald Trump Real Estate Mogul
Joi Ito
Jared Kushner Senior Advisor
Ivanka Trump Presidential Advisor and Businesswoman